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Dave Slaney
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Posted - 29 August 2007 :  3:38:41 PM  Show Profile Send Dave Slaney a Private Message
Right then. I’m really torn here, the Eagle books are all about giving our British ancestors a right good bashing and from how they sound in the series so far, they sound like they deserve all they get. However I do feel that I should be against the Romans as they were the ones who invaded us.

Now I’m hoping there’ll be many more in the Eagle series to come, but I would love a future series to focus on Macro rising through the ranks to be Centurion and giving the Hun a good thrashing. Now they were scary buggers! I always think of that big sod in ‘Gladiator’ holding the severed head and taunting the Legions.

I know it’s hard to backtrack after you’ve developed such great characters that we all love, but it’s just a thought.

By the way, after reading ‘Under The Eagle’ and i don’t think they’ve been mentioned again until now (in ‘The Eagle and The Wolves’), I wondered what a faggot was. They were lit, then thrown over the fort walls to deter the enemy from scaling the defences. Initially I had visions of a huge flaming meatball being thrown over the ramparts!

Parmenion
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Posted - 29 August 2007 :  4:35:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
nothing wrong with a prequel...

The early life of Macro,where he is like cato and where he has his own mentor!!

would make for a great book!!what do you say simon?? any plans down the line for a prequel??

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John Prigent
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Posted - 29 August 2007 :  4:44:03 PM  Show Profile Send John Prigent a Private Message
A faggot was simply a bundle of wood tied together. Usually fairly large.

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Coritanian
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Posted - 29 August 2007 :  5:47:38 PM  Show Profile Send Coritanian a Private Message
The invasion of Britain was a worthy major event in Roman history for the eagle books to start from, but my average knowledge of the subject doesn't recall anything good happening legion-wise before this until the 3 lost legions in Germania, which was about 35 years before the Eagles events. As much as I'd like to read Macro's backstory, nothing really interesting happened when he joined the Legions. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

Incidentally, faggot has another meaning too. Is it politically incorrect to set fire to a large group of gay men and send them running towards the enemy?!


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WILL C
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Posted - 02 September 2007 :  11:59:13 PM  Show Profile Send WILL C a Private Message
where do you think Johnny Cash got his idea for '' rings of fire''
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Bat King
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 September 2007 :  2:33:02 PM  Show Profile Send Bat King a Private Message
Of course the Huns were not in any territory neighbouring Rome for another hundred odd years.

I thought I wrote a post about them fitrst being mentioned by Ptolemy somewhere near the Sarmatians in 139. Certainly the Sarmations were with Atilla in the 5th Century.
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Justin Coles
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Posted - 05 September 2007 :  8:25:31 PM  Show Profile Send Justin Coles a Private Message
The big guy in Gladiator with the head was in fact from a germanic tribe, and nothing to do with 'the hun' as in Atilla. The Hun tribes came from the stepps - North Central Asia area. They defeated the germanic tribes, the Slavs, the Franks and the Romans and settled mainly in Hungaria. That was two centuries or more after Marcus Aurelias' Germanic Campaign though.

I've never really understood the use of the 'the hun' as a name for people of german origin - as they were a seperate people all together.


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Vertical_Dangler
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United Kingdom
28 Posts

Posted - 05 September 2007 :  8:42:36 PM  Show Profile Send Vertical_Dangler a Private Message
Speaking of Huns.. William Napier is writing a series of books about the man himself.Well worth a read.... (obviously not as good as Mr Scarrows tho.. backtrackbacktrack)

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Parmenion
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Posted - 05 September 2007 :  9:47:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
book 2 of that series was no where near as good as the first...its almost like a different series...he went too mystical

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AndyCanty
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Posted - 05 September 2007 :  9:49:35 PM  Show Profile  Click to see AndyCanty's MSN Messenger address Send AndyCanty a Private Message
yep, i'd echo that sentiment, i actually gave up at the point through book 2, which really disappointed me as i like book 1.

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Vertical_Dangler
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Posted - 05 September 2007 :  11:30:25 PM  Show Profile Send Vertical_Dangler a Private Message
Boo... haven`t got round to reading it yet :-(

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Sextus
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Australia
10 Posts

Posted - 06 September 2007 :  03:35:56 AM  Show Profile Send Sextus a Private Message
I think he is referring to the Germanic people as "the Hun" you may know thatGermany during to WWI was refereed as “the Hun” considering they were seen as a scourge that destroyed all in it’s path just as the Huns did during the 5th Century AD.


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Ankhsy
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Posted - 06 September 2007 :  1:00:35 PM  Show Profile Send Ankhsy a Private Message
I believe that nickname "Hun" to describe the German military arose as a result of German intervention in the Chinese Boxer Rebellion (1900?). In his speech to the German troops, Kaiser Wilhelm II told them to 'behave like the Huns of old' (or something to that effect). So it appears the Germans first used it as a reference to their own army.

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Bat King
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United Kingdom
169 Posts

Posted - 10 September 2007 :  4:02:00 PM  Show Profile Send Bat King a Private Message
Indeed, the Germans did refer to themselves as Huns before we did. Or rather as being 'like' Huns.

Actually got popularised in WWI here.

But I don't think Macro will have fought any of the Huns - the guys from the Steppes or the guys who were involved in Boxer Rebellion or WWI n WWII. Unless Macro makes a surprise guest appearance over in Alex's third novel...
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DESI
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USA
39 Posts

Posted - 20 September 2007 :  05:12:40 AM  Show Profile  Visit DESI's Homepage Send DESI a Private Message
Oh the Huns were MONSTERS!
I would very much like to see them get slaughtered and bashed by our favorite characters!

That would certainly be a treat!


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DESI
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USA
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Posted - 20 September 2007 :  05:18:20 AM  Show Profile  Visit DESI's Homepage Send DESI a Private Message
I thought the Huns don't really have definite descendants.
For all we know, I could be part Hun!

If they are Germans, I take back all the horrible things I said about them.
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Bat King
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 September 2007 :  08:25:22 AM  Show Profile Send Bat King a Private Message
Oh they definately have descendents... Probably all over Europe and parts off Asia. And due to migration... probably a lot in the USA.

Several ethnic groups claim to be descended from them - the Germans are not one, they just borrowed the name for the Boxer Rebellion and it stuck for a while.

Hungary has some people claiming to be ethnic Huns. But the place name itself has other origins.

Afghanistan actually have some tribes of possibly Mongol or Hun ancestry.

But Attilla's Hun Horde was not one ethnic group. The Huns were the ruling class and there were other ethnic groups among them. Sarmatians being one - if you saw the King Arthur film starring Clive Owen and Keira Knightley the Sarmatians were featured heavily in that.

Edited by - Bat King on 20 September 2007 08:27:30 AM
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AndyCanty
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Posted - 20 September 2007 :  09:43:26 AM  Show Profile  Click to see AndyCanty's MSN Messenger address Send AndyCanty a Private Message
I thought we were all part descended from Ghengis Khan as he owned most of the known world in his time??

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