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Parmenion
Homosapien


United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 December 2007 :  10:43:28 AM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
Hi all...looks like i will get some time to post for a few days...around headaches.
They found me passed out in the stairwell at work yesterday, not that i have any memory...lost about 1 and a half hours...apparently its a stress induced NES (non epileptic seizure) ...
have to say its a totally bizarre experience...i dont remember anything, and when i came around it was like waking up with a huge hangover.

the wifes taken my work laptop and phone...and apprently all my evil bosses are being nice about it..well dont know about my immediate boss...shes a right cold fish!!

so here i am sans hangover type headache still and feeling a bit of a twat, everyone i work with seeing me wheeled out by the medics, shaking like a numpty....pssissshhh!!

need to find a way to deee stress quickly...why...so i can get back to work...silly isnt it...because im now worrying about work...will they sack me for not handling the stress, getting sacked is not an option financially....(deep calming breaths!!!!)

any way feeling sorry for myself and ....well has anyone else had anything like this....any helpful tips on reduction of stress would be good!!

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AndyCanty
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United Kingdom
6782 Posts

Posted - 19 December 2007 :  12:46:57 PM  Show Profile  Click to see AndyCanty's MSN Messenger address Send AndyCanty a Private Message
Real sorry to hear it's not gotten any better mate!

Erm i have no real tips for de-stressing, everyone is different.
as to being sacked.....i think.....they can't if it's proved to be work related stress, the tribunal would sink them. maybe you should deal with the stess by looking again for jobs, maybe a career change, fixed hours no silly weekend work etc etc. might mean a small paycut, but thats better than collapsing at the top of the stairs and arriving at the bottom with a broken neck.....that will deffo ruin your day and Janes!!

Stop worrying about work! if you are that integral the company they will not sack you and if they can survive while your off sick to work related stress, then you can stop stressing over the workload can't you?

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Parmenion
Homosapien



United Kingdom
14676 Posts

Posted - 19 December 2007 :  12:57:12 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
yes mum!! LOL

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AndyCanty
Homosapien



United Kingdom
6782 Posts

Posted - 19 December 2007 :  1:39:32 PM  Show Profile  Click to see AndyCanty's MSN Messenger address Send AndyCanty a Private Message
glad to see your listening! LOL

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Alex Scarrow
Ape



993 Posts

Posted - 19 December 2007 :  4:09:43 PM  Show Profile Send Alex Scarrow a Private Message
I think I echo everyone here when I say, take it easy Robin. Rest, recouperate and maybe do some strategic thinking about your job, and whether it's worth this level of grief.

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John Prigent
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United Kingdom
8794 Posts

Posted - 19 December 2007 :  4:46:30 PM  Show Profile Send John Prigent a Private Message
Hear, hear - Alex is right!

Cheers

John
Captain, Star Fleet
"to boldly split infinitives that no man (or woman) has split before"
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AndyCanty
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United Kingdom
6782 Posts

Posted - 19 December 2007 :  5:12:49 PM  Show Profile  Click to see AndyCanty's MSN Messenger address Send AndyCanty a Private Message
now i know why Alex is a successful writer, much better with words than me...LOL

Yep..Here Here!

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Parmenion
Homosapien



United Kingdom
14676 Posts

Posted - 19 December 2007 :  5:36:49 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
if anyone ever need know why i and others come here this thread is as good evidence as you can find...good friends, good community...safe haven..to talk about anything.

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Fast Paul
Ape



United Kingdom
1006 Posts

Posted - 19 December 2007 :  6:42:49 PM  Show Profile Send Fast Paul a Private Message
Hi Parms,

I had something similar a couple of years ago. I thought I was having a heart attack, severe pains in the chest, numb down my left side, the pain was intense and lasted for about fifteen minutes. I ended up in hospital with heart moniters every where.

After tests with a heart specialist a couple of weeks later he told me it was down to stress. I had to cut out all the stressful parts of my life ie. my business. I took it as a warning and scaled down the business to reduce the stress and in so doing improved my whole out-look on life and how fragile and short it is. We`re not here for long, just visiting so to speak, but the thought of my kids Fatherless broke my heart and so I scaled down. It hurt fiancially but what is money? Best I`m around a little longer to love and look after them is my belief.

Anyway, two years down the line I`m still stress free, even though my company is three times larger now than before I down scaled. With my new out-look I work differently, I don`t worry about anything really (and belive me worrying never changed anything!) If I don`t fancy a contract I don`t put a bid in for it, and thats why the business has grown. Strange really but sometimes you can`t see the wood for the trees.

Anyway if I feel stress building up I think of my wife and kids and unburden it. If I see one of my staff stressed I unburden them and share the load. I now get tremendous loyalty from my staff who work even harder but with a smile on their faces and life is good.( and hopefully I`m only halfway through mine!)




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Ankhsy
Homosapien



United Kingdom
7861 Posts

Posted - 19 December 2007 :  7:48:47 PM  Show Profile Send Ankhsy a Private Message
Good stuff, Fast Paul. The problem is people wait until they get hit, either a stress attack, or a heart attack, before they take control of their life and decide what really matters.

Your attack is a real warning, Parm. Life isn't worth living with stress like that. Put your feet up and just say "no" to any stressful thought that comes into your head. Everything can wait, work will get on without you, people and things that stress you are not worth the effort. Go for several good massages; even try several facials. How about yoga classes? It may sound for sissys, but they are very de-stressing activities (not to mention doing wonders for your body and skin!).

You cannot go on like that, and we don't want to lose you. There is a world of opportunity out there and you are a resourveful imaginative guy. Dare to do something different.



"We are Starfleet officers, weird is part of the job."
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AndyCanty
Homosapien



United Kingdom
6782 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2007 :  10:54:17 AM  Show Profile  Click to see AndyCanty's MSN Messenger address Send AndyCanty a Private Message
I agree Ankhsy, Marie and I take the kids to CentreParcs at least twice a year on their cheap weeks. we take full advantage ofthe spa they have there 3 hrs of peace with massages or just chilling in a themed steam room. really takes your mind off things.

I also echo Ankhsy's sentiment! Parm TAKE IT EASY! don't look for the perfect job just a stop gap to get your health back into order. then you can find the job you love and will only be 9-5 then you can as everyone has said ENJOY LIFE!

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Simon Scarrow
Ape



Uruguay
1048 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2007 :  11:26:46 AM  Show Profile Send Simon Scarrow a Private Message
Very sorry to hear about this Parm, but not too surprised. You've mentioned the pressure you are under before. And it's a disturbingly common phenomenon. When I was in teaching I saw a lot of it, and even suffered it once some years back when workload combined with domestic tensions led to a breakdown. The only cure is rest, and reflection on the important things in life. When I went back to work I made an effort to leave the work at work as far as humanly possible, and be a husband and father the moment I walked through the door at home. I was lucky in that my wife was supportive. It was only a brief spell and I have never felt the same again. An amusing side issue was the doctor who was adamant that I was despressed. Apparently he couldn't tell the difference between exhaustion and depression and I had great fun with him as we debated the finer points of existential angst and how it was poor methodology to conflate philosophical positions with clinical prognoses. Made me feel a lot better that did! Anyway, it's Christmas. Relax, rest and cuddle up to Jane. That's what life is all about.
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John Prigent
Homosapien



United Kingdom
8794 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2007 :  12:23:19 PM  Show Profile Send John Prigent a Private Message
I had a similar experience with my own doctor after finding my Mother-in-Law dead in her bed - it was just one corpse too many. I was like a ferret on a sugar high, tense and adrenalin-driven, unable to sleep. My doctor said I was over-producing adrenalin but prescribed antidepressants for some reason only known to himself. Unlike you, I didn't bother to argue that I wasn't depressed but I did spend a lot more time relaxing.

Cheers

John
Captain, Star Fleet
"to boldly split infinitives that no man (or woman) has split before"
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Ankhsy
Homosapien



United Kingdom
7861 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2007 :  1:39:00 PM  Show Profile Send Ankhsy a Private Message
My doctor spent years telling me I was stressed and depressed and trying to get me on anti-depressants. It was only when I changed doctors that they found out it was my thyroid! Prescribing anti-depressants is an easy option for doctors, but it doesn't get rid of the problem.

The problem with stress is that once you suffer with it, you will never get used to it, even when you've been away for a break and you think you've recovered. Stress is cummulative, and you end up being less and less likely to deal with as much of it as you did before.

I moved to Alderney because I needed a life-change and to beat the stress. Pretty drastic, I know, then there was only me, so it was easier than when you have responsibility for a family. But I had just had enough; I wanted the world to stop and get off. Life hasn't stopped and after a few years of slow hard crawling, I'm having the best time of my life.

Time to get out of the stress, rut, Parm. We are all rooting for you.



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Parmenion
Homosapien



United Kingdom
14676 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2007 :  2:17:31 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
Thanks all of you.

Just got back from the docs, been banned from alcohol, drivinh and work until i have had some more tests...they dont want me to do anything that might trigger another siezure...in case its not totallyy stress related.

Im goin gto make more of an effort to move jobs, and try and do some more writing, maybe it will help get things out of my system if i write!!

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Simon Scarrow
Ape



Uruguay
1048 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2007 :  2:22:50 PM  Show Profile Send Simon Scarrow a Private Message
It always helped me Parm. I find writing a fine way to clarify and objectify thoughts which would only remain jumbled up in my head otherwise.
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Parmenion
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United Kingdom
14676 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2007 :  2:59:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
Cheers!!!....starting tomorrow im going to dust of the book...and also spend some time just writing the first thing that comes into my head...and see what i end up with.

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AndyCanty
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United Kingdom
6782 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2007 :  3:12:00 PM  Show Profile  Click to see AndyCanty's MSN Messenger address Send AndyCanty a Private Message
You do that buddy! look forward to reading it!

I hope the docs find nothing un-toward and it is simply stress!

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drosdelnoch
Small mammal



United Kingdom
484 Posts

Posted - 20 December 2007 :  6:21:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit drosdelnoch's Homepage  Click to see drosdelnoch's MSN Messenger address Send drosdelnoch a Private Message
All the best Parm, I was under a huge amount of stress with sales targets and working for a company who basically told me to lie cheat and scam until I hit my sales targets. (the company who will not be named is part of a huge chain) and the best thing I ever did was leave the damn thing. Money was tight but I found other ways round it and now make sure I get to do a lot of the time what relaxes me, ie reading my books of choice. Whilst its not bringing in big bucks its slightly better than the dole and a hell of a lot less stress. I actually look forward to work. Perhaps it might be time for you to look in a similar direction.

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Parmenion
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 January 2008 :  1:25:34 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
am update for you all..

The doc thought the headaches was sinisitis last week, i had some very strog anti biotics, but no joy with that, then he wnted to rule out cluster migraines, and game me some anti migraine pills, i had one yesterday and the headaches tripled in intensity...so im not having any more of them. Back to the docs tomorrow and then i think a referal to the neurology dept...see if they can get to the bottom of this.

now you would think id be loving this, time to read, write & watch films....nope i can do max of a hour then i have to stop and shut down for a power nap...the headche gets unbearable at that point...hey ho...i still hold out some hope of doing something on the book.

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Edited by - Parmenion on 15 January 2008 2:17:42 PM
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Gladius
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 January 2008 :  2:09:12 PM  Show Profile Send Gladius a Private Message
Yeah, see what happens when you go to the doctors eh! Hopefully the neurology guys can sort you out and you can be back to normal in no time.

Get well soon Parm.
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Trigger
Single Cell Organism



Ireland
18 Posts

Posted - 15 January 2008 :  2:26:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit Trigger's Homepage Send Trigger a Private Message
Hey there Stress Head,

Im in an advice giving mood today, it may suck though, be warned you may feel like smashing your keyboard over your head and cursing my name till you start to bleed from the eyes.

Im prone to the odd bit of stress , some warrented and then some of it completely way out there.

I have some ways of dealing with it... and they are pretty obvious .. and may be in line with your natural instincts.

1. Talk to someone you can be completely honest with. I find when Im stressed my brain goes into some kinda wierd primordial defensive, paranoid instinct where I must make plans to cope with worst case scenario. Usually I talk to the missus or a close mate and they give me the slap in the face I need. Ya know the "getta grip of yourself speech" it works most of the time. They're real toughies.

2. WALK. A good walk in the world really wakes ya up, also its easer than the tough love mentioned above hahah. I live close to the city, so maybe its more effective but any walk around any modern city can really help put things in perspective. Have a look at other peoples peoples problems to put your own into perspective....seriously it works.

3. Listen to music , not the music you listened to when you broke up with whats her face when you 22 , the stuff you listened to when you first scored !!Woooot or from a band or performer you saw live that you had a great time at.


Things to avoid.

1. Idiots on internet forums dishing out crap advice...whhhooops too late...

2. The news, whens the last time there was any good news? It all adds up.

3. Caffeine, seriously , not when your stressed.

4. Public transport, if where you live is anything like where I live public transport is full of the most abnormal collection of the populice you could possibly hope to assemble at random in any one place at any given time.


Hope things have improved somewhat.

Trev


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Parmenion
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 January 2008 :  2:38:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
cheers trigger...actually i talk to you lot open and honestly, its some of the best stress relief i get. Its not advice its just to talk without judgement.
I stopped reading the papers a while back they were all fun of lies and crap, each writer with is own agenda.
I hate coffee so thats easy...now giving up the diet coke was harder...but im just drinking OJ and water.
and one does not do public transport...at all....which is a bugger as im not allowed to drive right now.

I do go for a walk. but can only manage round the block before my head starts pounding...but will keep trying...off for a kip now as the head is thumping a bit.

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Ankhsy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 January 2008 :  1:14:29 PM  Show Profile Send Ankhsy a Private Message
What a bummer, Parm. You should seriously consider starting a new life as a beach bum. No stress there.

Seriously, I don't know how you keep smiling (when, you are whenever I see you!) when you are hurting all over. Hey Trigger, he really is a positive sort of guy!

I get moments of stress....when I feel the world is so stupid and I just want to step off it; when I get so frustrated at the news I read; when my brain shuts down and doesn't function like I want it to; when I ache all over but have to keep going to aerobics three times a week to fight off the effects of gravity and low metabolism. Sometimes, life just feels like a losing battle.

But then there are moments, like when the sun comes out, and I feel that bit of warmth on my face, and this morning when I saw my first snowdrop, and an email comes in from a friend saying 2let's have lunch next week when you are in London". And you know what? I smile, and that little moment makes everything alright and lifts my stress.

Sounds corny, I know, but that's how I manage, day to day, one hour at a time, knowing that I can get through the hard times and looking forward to the next little smile-moment. This forum keeps my faith in humanity going, and I hope that by this little posting, I can return the favour to any one of you.



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Parmenion
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 16 January 2008 :  1:35:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
just taking each day even each hour as it comes, just booked an appointment with the neurologist as my doctor has run out of simple ideas...got to say that scares the crap out of me.....but as i have bupa its only a 3 week wait.

if i didnt have the bills to pay i would drop out sell up and go live in the heat...a simple life in the sun would suit me just nicely

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John Prigent
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United Kingdom
8794 Posts

Posted - 16 January 2008 :  4:06:20 PM  Show Profile Send John Prigent a Private Message
I can't say that I think much of your doctor Parm, trying all the easy solutions first and only now sending you to a neurologist. Nor of your employer, they should have called an ambulance and got you to the hospital quickly for expert diagnosis and a brain scan. When I was running an office that owuld have been my immediate reaction, just to check that there was no sign of cerebral haemorrage or other brain problems. The other ideas come _after_ that when someone suddenly collapses and has massive headaches.

Cheers

John
Captain, Star Fleet
"to boldly split infinitives that no man (or woman) has split before"
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Parmenion
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United Kingdom
14676 Posts

Posted - 16 January 2008 :  4:17:09 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
to be fair john work called an ambulance and i went to the queens med, its th hopsital who did minimal tests and booted me out the door. My doctor was also to be fair working along the lines of "if you hear hooves think horses not elephants" hence rule out the obvious first. tests i accept are expensive and consultants limited so i accept to some degree the delay, fortunatly i have bupa so my waiting list is a few weeks other wise it would be a few months at best.

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John Prigent
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United Kingdom
8794 Posts

Posted - 16 January 2008 :  6:59:40 PM  Show Profile Send John Prigent a Private Message
Well that's a relief Parm! At least work did the right thing even if the hospital only did a few tests. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you!

Cheers

John
Captain, Star Fleet
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Parmenion
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United Kingdom
14676 Posts

Posted - 16 January 2008 :  7:22:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
and to put work in perspective...they wanted sick boy off the property ASAP, reduce their liability as must as possible IMHO. they did the right thing... ut i dont think their motives were pure

and thanks john...you guys (and gal) keep me sane and grounded...and take some of the worry away

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Fast Paul
Ape



United Kingdom
1006 Posts

Posted - 17 January 2008 :  09:40:11 AM  Show Profile Send Fast Paul a Private Message
I think that as I`m the only doctor here (McCoy!!) I am sending you a prescription for 2 hours in a darkened room with relaxing music and a nice view. I hope this helps!


One ticket to The Spearmint Rhino in post mate!!!! Hope Jane dosn`t mind.



A Grizzly Bear can run 100 yards in 4.3 seconds...........................so don`t push it!

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Parmenion
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United Kingdom
14676 Posts

Posted - 17 January 2008 :  09:52:53 AM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
oooh your a great doctor....never been to the rhino....

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