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mike
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United Kingdom
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 Posted - 27 July 2007 : 7:37:50 PM
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Why did Wellington leave Ney to die?
He could have saved him with one word from his mouth, yet he did not.
Wellington is always painted as the upright, upstanding, morally unequivocal leader, yet he callously let this man be executed. Shame on him.
This scar on Wellington's character is not oft repeated in history books, it's almost like it's hushed up. Does anyone here know more about this?
Si post fata venit gloria, non propero.
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Simon Scarrow
Small mammal
Uruguay
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Posted - 27 July 2007 : 8:00:59 PM
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| The reasons for this are made clear in an article on the trial of Ney in Military Illustrated issue no: 229 (June 2007). Wellington was severely constrained in his professional capacity as leader of the allied powers in Paris. The last thing the allies wanted to do was to make the French government seem to be under the allied thumb. Also the French King made it impossible for Wellington to intervene in a personal capacity by refusing to talk to him while the trial and sentence were ongoing. |
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mike
Dinosaur
United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 July 2007 : 8:15:42 PM
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I didn't read Military Illustrated. June 2007 though - how topical. The fact that this is still being discussed probably shows how controversial an issue it is.
I'm not sure about your argument though Simon. "the French King made it impossible for Wellington to intervene in a personal capacity". Wellington was basically the absolute power in France at the time - he could have intervened.
"The last thing the allies wanted to do was to make the French government seem to be under the allied thumb" this implies that Wellngton could have intervened.
Wellington was the only man alive who could have stopped this injustice, yet he did not. I would argue because he chose not to, not because he was powerless.
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AndyCanty
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 27 July 2007 : 9:34:41 PM
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i would suggest that it might have not been his decision on whether to intervene or not, he was still subject to the crown and the british goverment, horse guards etc. I can only assume that he had caveats applied to his presence in Paris.
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Benreturns
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 28 July 2007 : 2:21:44 PM
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That sounds like a reasonable point Andy.
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
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Posted - 29 July 2007 : 4:58:28 PM
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also welly might have had power in france but as already stated the political situation meant that there had to be some soft footing around the french king other wise france would have seen us as invaders and risen up, so a soft hand was required. in the end this was french business and french justice...so dont lun
mp it on wellys shoulders.
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Stomachus Grossus
Homosapien
United Kingdom
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Posted - 30 July 2007 : 4:48:39 PM
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Hadn't Ney switched sides Neapoleon - Borbon - Neapolian .... if so then its hard to think that he would not be executed.....
Our soldiers were killed for less
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glenmal
Single Cell Organism
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Posted - 03 November 2008 : 10:49:39 PM
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Originally posted by mike
Why did Wellington leave Ney to die?
He could have saved him with one word from his mouth, yet he did not.
Wellington is always painted as the upright, upstanding, morally unequivocal leader, yet he callously let this man be executed. Shame on him.
This scar on Wellington's character is not oft repeated in history books, it's almost like it's hushed up. Does anyone here know more about this?
Ah, but Marshall Ney's last words were glorious. He said, "Soldiers Fire!" And the firing squad did as he ordered.
Si post fata venit gloria, non propero.
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