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Posted - 16 February 2009 :  4:46:55 PM  Show Profile Send scarrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The publisher for Streamers had a marketing meeting today and decided to rebrand the series as TIME MATRIX.

What's your initial reaction? You like? You not like?

I do take onboard their point that getting 'time' into the title helps get the core premise across. But my gut reaction is a one-word title has more impact than a phrase.

Can anybody come up with a cool sounding one word title that uses 'time' and sums up the concept of 'time travel policing agency'

Obviously TIMECOP has been done. :-)

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Posted - 16 February 2009 :  7:21:14 PM  Show Profile Send John Prigent a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So has Time Patrol. Are they looking to ride on the coattails of The Matrix, I wonder? How about Timesearchers?

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Parmenion
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Posted - 16 February 2009 :  8:06:14 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
...sorry mate...dont like it....its....cheesy...i liked streamers...and agree one word has much more impact...or something less cheesy

Guardians of Time (could be a series title an then you can have indivdual titles, and lean away from time in individual titles)

Quantum Cops
Time Flux
paradox (Police)??
Wormhole
Time Jumpers
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Simon Scarrow
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Posted - 16 February 2009 :  8:12:21 PM  Show Profile Send Simon Scarrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Chronocops. The Forever Fuzz (nods to AM there). Timatrix. ChronoCorps. Timestream. TimeStreamers. Time 'Tecs. Timers. Clock Cops. Watchmen (!). Watchers. Date Watchers (kind of a wait loss club AKA WaitWatchers).The Datetrix. Tempus F. Sometime... TimeCrime.

Can't say I think Time Matrix has much going for it. Sounds like a Dr Who bit of bogus science.

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Posted - 17 February 2009 :  11:47:42 AM  Show Profile Send LeeGregz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Theres something about it i dont like........
..........Matrixia? Time Recruits?

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Posted - 17 February 2009 :  2:46:23 PM  Show Profile Send Ankhsy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Horologion?



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Posted - 18 February 2009 :  09:25:52 AM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Continuum


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Posted - 18 February 2009 :  12:04:01 PM  Show Profile  Visit Graeme Canty's Homepage  Click to see Graeme Canty's MSN Messenger address Send Graeme Canty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Streamers sounded good. 'Time Matrix' sounds cheesey and in my oppinion would turn peeps off with 'Oh another time travel story!.....groan!' I mean that sounds like the central core of a time machine straight out of an old Sci-Fi movie like the 'Flux Capacitor' LOL.

Parms 'Continuum' seems good, The word 'Time' seems dated to me.

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Posted - 19 February 2009 :  2:19:12 PM  Show Profile Send scarrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes...I wasn't entirely wowed by the choice of name. It feels a tad cheesy.
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Posted - 19 February 2009 :  5:21:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Temporal Task force
Tempus
Temporal Investigation M...... Executive
(cant quite put my finger on what the M could be???) bit it give you TIME as a series and and each book could have an individual titleunder that banner?

or
Temporal Incident Monitoring Executive



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Posted - 20 February 2009 :  4:17:22 PM  Show Profile Send scarrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Which of these series brandnames do you think sounds coolest:

TimeRider Series

TimeStream Series

TimeScape Series
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Posted - 20 February 2009 :  5:58:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
TimeStream Series

this one for me

time rider is too like the alex rider series
Timescape....just does nothing for me

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Posted - 20 February 2009 :  7:17:36 PM  Show Profile Send John Prigent a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Timestream sounds good to me too.

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Posted - 20 February 2009 :  8:36:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
you know what TimeStreamers sounds even better

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Posted - 25 February 2009 :  3:56:43 PM  Show Profile Send KilboFraggins a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Time Matrix! Are you kidding me? That's possibly the crappiest design-by-committee name I've heard in quite a while.
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Posted - 26 February 2009 :  3:15:45 PM  Show Profile Send Ankhsy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
TimeStream? Sounds too much like Time Team to me. How about 'Streamtime' ?



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Posted - 26 February 2009 :  3:45:04 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"How about 'Streamtime' "


Sounds like a time slot for a wee!

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Posted - 27 February 2009 :  08:25:28 AM  Show Profile Send scarrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
lol. I might use that euphemism from now on.

'Arghh...I'm busting for a streamtime.'
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Posted - 27 February 2009 :  08:28:25 AM  Show Profile Send scarrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It looks like 'TimeRiders' will be the title of the first book and the series brand. Now I need to start learning to love it. :-)
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Posted - 27 February 2009 :  09:03:47 AM  Show Profile  Click to see AndyCanty's MSN Messenger address Send AndyCanty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I still prefer streamers, but are we all a little "old" in that thought process??? wouldn't the title TimeRiders will mean more to the kids who will see the title on the shelf, maybe will generate more impulse sales??

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Posted - 27 February 2009 :  09:49:01 AM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Time riders...mm..i suppose it may grow...but it does link well with Alex ider if thats what they were trying to do (that is a very popular kids series)

I hope it explodes onto the market and hits the YA best seller list !...Number 1 here you come

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Posted - 27 February 2009 :  3:20:52 PM  Show Profile Send scarrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm hoping I can convince a few adults to read it too. Hence my enthusiasm for a 'cleverer' title. Ah well....if I can do my bit to make books 'cool' for 11+ lads, then I'll be happy.
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Posted - 27 February 2009 :  3:30:52 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
well im going to read it, and i know quite a few other adult readers i should be able to get to read it...maybe word will spread...but your right a cleverer title might have helped, im guessing they are not aiming at the adult market at all?

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Posted - 27 February 2009 :  4:50:01 PM  Show Profile Send scarrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I can see they're thinking....11+ is the primary market. So to play it safe, they're aiming the title/cover design at them.
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Posted - 05 March 2009 :  6:55:40 PM  Show Profile Send Ankhsy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
TimeRiders?.....[goes away and thinks about it]


......[comes back]


I can live with that.



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Posted - 05 March 2009 :  8:28:28 PM  Show Profile Send scarrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
yeah...it's sort of growing on me. Puffin recently did a focus test...brough a bunch of lads in who represent the target market. They preferred TimeRiders over Streamers. The latter name didn't tell them enough.

So...there you go. The sales/marketing people seem to know their stuff. And I know jack.
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Posted - 05 March 2009 :  10:34:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jack...whos this jack fella!!??

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Posted - 05 March 2009 :  10:36:50 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just thought....does that make all of us in here old?? as we all thought streamers was better...do you listen to the radio and think whats this cr@p that the kids are listening too??

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Posted - 06 March 2009 :  09:59:22 AM  Show Profile Send Ankhsy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I remeber my Mom thinking I listened to rubbish as a kid. Nowadays they are called 'golden oldies'.



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Posted - 06 March 2009 :  12:33:54 PM  Show Profile Send John Prigent a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't mind the kids listening to what I think of as rubbish, every generations always says their kids'music is rubbish. What I object to is having the kids' rubbish inflicted on _me_ by shops that play it so loud that it can heard not just outside but 100 yards away. Or 100 metres, which is even further.

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