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Parmenion
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 Posted - 18 May 2009 : 1:17:13 PM
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Ok so has anyone else been yet?
went this weekend, and its well worth the effort, its casting is excellent, JJ abrams has done a brilliant job, the right blend of story and special effects, and a generous dollop of funny!.
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The fact they have changed history has given them a clean slate, they can avoid all the geeks who know kirks life right down to the pants he wears are scuppered, its all changed, the whole universe starts again, so we can expect more films!!
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Ankhsy
Homosapien
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 May 2009 : 2:10:50 PM
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I meant to see it this saturday when I was in London. But I didn't sleep a wink on friday night because my room mate snored all night; sp O went for a siesta instead (before walking through the night for the Moonwalk). darn, I'll just have to wait until it finds its way to Alderney.
"To be clear-headed rather than confused; lucid rather than obscure; rational rather than otherwise; and to be neither more, nor less, sure of things than is justifiable by argument or evidence. That is worth trying for."
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scarrow
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Posted - 18 May 2009 : 5:16:06 PM
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| Hey Isobel, Frances was marshalling at the moonwalk! |
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Ankhsy
Homosapien
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 May 2009 : 1:59:38 PM
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Really? Where? I'm sorry I missed her.
"To be clear-headed rather than confused; lucid rather than obscure; rational rather than otherwise; and to be neither more, nor less, sure of things than is justifiable by argument or evidence. That is worth trying for."
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Mace
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 May 2009 : 12:59:22 PM
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Saw it last friday.
Not too bad, and probably as good as I'd epected. The action scenes weren't bad, the actors fitted their roles well, and there were a few decent laughs.
Dissapointed in the baddy, thought he lacked any real dimension and there were too many coinsidences - ooh, they had to maroon him on exactly that planet where Scotty also happed to be? WTF!!!
Thought that the verbal given on Kirk and Spocks relationship by Spock et all was getting a bit 'brokeback mountain'.
all in all, not bad, and actually think a sequal would be better. 6/10.
"My Mom says I'm cool"
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 May 2009 : 1:09:06 PM
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the problem is your looking at it from a furure perspective, you think coincidence thane he just happens to be on that planet, but they have never met, this is the first time they meet, they meet in this time dimension because he is marooned on that planet, its no coincidence its just how they meet, thats the beaty of the scrpt, the whole universe and the whole history has changed.
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scarrow
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Posted - 25 May 2009 : 9:20:39 PM
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Saw it today. I was ready to pan it. I was ready to moan like a grumpy old man...something along the lines of 'Star Trek for the MTV-addicted ADHD generation'.
Well, I've got egg on my face.
Yes, it was bloody good fun. Yes, it was what you'd want from a summer popcorn movie. And yes, it looked fabulous. But more than all these things, it treated the Star Trek canon with respect. I found myself smiling with gratitude to JJ Abrams and the screenwriters for not peeing all over me and my generation of Trek fans in their haste to produce cinematic fodder for a new generation of consumers. The characters, all of them, genuinely felt like younger iterations of the characters we know and love. If I was to single out the most successful members of the cast, it would be the young Spock and the young Bones.
The FX were the jaw-dropping standard we casually take for granted these days. The sets were nicely spangly and futuristic. But, the real star of the show, what should really pick up an award....was the storytelling.
I won't post any spoilers. But I'll say this...the writers had some incredibly big hurdles to leap with regard to rebooting this franchise. Because we all know what happens to James T Kirk...we know he dies a relatively old man, because we know that all the cast are present and correct and all happy and bushy-tailed in the first episode of the 60's TV series, we know no one's going to die from the first frame of the movie. So, the writers have cleverly thrown in a corruption of the timeline that occurs even before James T is born...thus, with one sweep of the pen, assuring the viewer that all bets are off and anything could happen, anyone could die, in this different but recognisable-in-every-way universe. And it doesn't feel like a bolted-on contrivance, it doesn't feel forced at all.
Whilst I'm busy praising the script....let me also add the writers did a superb job in really setting up the core character dynamic between Spock, Kirk and Bones.
It makes a real change to walk out of the cinema and not feel like I've been scammed out of £10, yet again, by Hollywood. For the first time in quite a while, I actually feel like I got my money's worth. No, belay that. More than my money's worth.
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 May 2009 : 09:50:48 AM
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see told you!!
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Ankhsy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 May 2009 : 09:51:59 AM
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I'm assured the film is coming here for Alderney week (first week in August). I can't wait!!!! In the meantime, I am watching the first series of 'Star Trek: The Original series' all over again, just to refresh my memory...and remind myself how achingly bad the acting was back then.
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Mace
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Posted - 26 May 2009 : 12:16:46 PM
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I know, I'm looking at it too critically, Parm.
There again, I'm not a treky and I'm looking at it for it as more of a standalone film.
**** Spoiler Alert - Do not read on*****
I know the crew's names, and the fact that 100% of them were on the Enterprise by the end seemd 'twee'. It would've been a bolder move to have Bones killed, as I actually thought that he was the weakest charector defined in the crew. Spock was fine, Kirk was excellent, and the rest were pretty good, too (can even accept Peggs' Scottish accent). But Bones was prepared to maroon his friend on an ice planet (and bear in mind, Pegg was the only one on that planet and he wasn't looking for him, so there's a major plot hole!) and then go in cahoots with Spock?
There was just too much 'Kirk and Spock' love, too little bad guy and too many coincidences for my liking.
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Ankhsy
Homosapien
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Posted - 11 August 2009 : 4:30:00 PM
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Saw it yesterday.
Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant!! Absolutely bloody brilliant!!!!!
Need I say more?
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WarrenH
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Posted - 15 August 2009 : 11:02:08 AM
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I got hold of it, and yes I am a fan all over again!
Ankhsy said "Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant!! Absolutely bloody brilliant!!!!!"
I have nothing else to add!
Except - when is the next one?
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Ankhsy
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Posted - 15 August 2009 : 5:58:43 PM
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That was the best Star Trek film!
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Parmenion
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Posted - 15 August 2009 : 6:06:02 PM
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not hard the others were very cheesy
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Ascarion
Single Cell Organism
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Posted - 16 August 2009 : 6:36:17 PM
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That was not Star Trek. The film didnt deserve the name. Reminded me more of Star Wars.
I agree with what was said about the beauty of the script above and I also agree that Kirk, Bones and Spock (Nimoy fantastic as ever and Quinto did a nice job of portraying the essence of the Nimoy's Spock and adding a bit of his own) were played very nicely. Simon Pegg as Scotty is rather riddiculous though.
It was said before the launch, that the film was meant to renew the Star Trek franchise. Well, I guess we can be sure, that the actors of the movie won't take part in a series, they're "above" that now, with the film being a success. So as Trekkies the best outcome one can expect is another Star Trek movie. While I have no objections to that, it doesn't feel right. Star Trek has allways been the series. The movies were a nice addendum but not more. So in that perspective this new movie doesn't quite satisfy me. Additionally calling the film "Star Trek" kind of says: This is the one and only Star Trek movie.
All in all it is a good Sci-Fi film, but in my opinion not a good eleventh Star Trek movie. |
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Parmenion
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Posted - 16 August 2009 : 6:57:16 PM
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each to their own..and i like a bit of cheese in scifi...but this was a proper film...no cheese an proper film with all its component parts.
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Ankhsy
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Posted - 17 August 2009 : 4:34:59 PM
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Ascarion, I agree with you. There were things wrong with the story, such as Chekov, who actually doesn't appear in The Original Series (TOS) until the second season. So he shouldn't have been in the film. Another thing, Kirk, Chekov and Sulu are roughly the same age, although in the original series, there are big differences. The USS Enterprise was originally built space and not in a cornfield in Iowa, and its original 'bridge' did not have handrails!
Actually, my favourite 'Star Trek' film is "First Contact" with TNG characters, rather than any film with TOS characters.
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
14676 Posts |
Posted - 17 August 2009 : 4:48:24 PM
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XXXXXXX spoiler XXXXXXXXXXXXX
Ankhsy...history was changed the whole of it, parents could have met sooner, the methods of ship building , do we use handrails?
the way kirk beat the kobyashi test etc.. it all changed when spok screwed with the universe and changed history...thats the point of the film
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Carus Andiae
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Posted - 20 August 2009 : 3:23:37 PM
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Originally posted by Ankhsy
Actually, my favourite 'Star Trek' film is "First Contact" with TNG characters, rather than any film with TOS characters.
Agree with you there.
Still, I really enjoyed it. The Romulans-with-a-superweapon plot was a bit reminiscent of Nemesis (although I suppose to be pedantic in the latter they were Remans plotting to take control of the Romulan Empire) and I could have done without the Spock/Uhura love-in, but hey ho!
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