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brianchris
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Posted - 17 July 2009 :  12:55:26 PM  Show Profile Send brianchris a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hi Alex.

A suggestion from your Danish translator: "First Glimmer".(With literal and metaphorical asociations:glimmer of light,glimmer of hope).

Brian
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Bat King
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Posted - 15 August 2009 :  02:12:28 AM  Show Profile Send Bat King a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Living Daylights.
Dusk Till Dawn.

What, both taken already?
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Fast Paul
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Posted - 20 August 2009 :  9:08:00 PM  Show Profile Send Fast Paul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Moonlight

Sunrise.

or if you`re still struggling there`s always the old favourite that covers what you`re trying to say....

"It all went tits up...but it`s OK now!"

any good...no, I didn`t think so either...








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AndyCanty
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Posted - 21 August 2009 :  1:09:35 PM  Show Profile  Click to see AndyCanty's MSN Messenger address Send AndyCanty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
this might have been mentioned, but what about

First Light.
Dawns Light.
Lights up.

I think you need to keep light in the title maybe to provide continuity.

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Parmenion
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Posted - 21 August 2009 :  7:24:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Professor Snuggles saves the world?

Ming and the new dawn

The Legion of Light

Legions Light

Beacon of Hope

Embers

Ashes



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Fast Paul
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Posted - 24 August 2009 :  10:37:39 AM  Show Profile Send Fast Paul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dawns Warriors

Warriors of Dawn

Dawns Hope

Riders of Dawn

Dawns Raiders

Knights of the Moonlight

Moonlight Knights




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Ankhsy
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Posted - 24 August 2009 :  1:19:17 PM  Show Profile Send Ankhsy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How about "Ragnarok"?
In Norse mythology, this is the end of the world. Here's more info on it.

"The Ragnarok, or end of the world, has been prophesied. When Mirmir no longer guards his well, Yggdrasil's root will begin to rot. The Nidhog dragon will finally succeed in knawing through the root that ends at Hvergelmer well. The Norns will be alarmed at the pollution of the Urdh well and the yellowing of the leaves of the world tree. Odin's sacrificed eye lies in Mirmir's well and sees what is to come. He knows that nothing can stop Fibulwinter, three years with endless winter, which will be followed by Ragnarok.

The days will grow colder until even Urda well freezes solid. Storm and sleet will pound the World-Tree. One of Yggdrasil's branches will break and fall, striking Jormungand, the world serpent, which immediately will let go of its tail. The Hel ship Naglfar will become visible in the mist. The wolves Skoll and Manegarm will get closer and closer to Sun and Moon, which they have chased for eons. Fenrir wolf and and the Hel-wolf Garm will break their chains. Giants will release Loki from his fetters on the mountain. Nidhoggr will leave the roots of Yggdrasil and head toward Asgard. Behind him will march all the Giants. Heimdall will see all this, and will take up the Gjallarhorn to blow the warning.

Loki will lead monsters and Giants to attack the Gods in the great battle of Ragnarok on Vigrid plain. The leader of the Fire Giants, Surt, will attack Freyr, who will be armed only with a deer's antler. Freyr will stick his deer horn through Surt's eye, but then Surt will kill him with his flaming sword. Thor's son Magni will send a killing arrow toward Nidhoggr's head. Side by side, Odin and Thor will fight Fenrir and Jormungand. Odin will put his spear, Gungnir, in Fenrir's chest, but the wolf will crush Odin to the ground. Thor will kill Jormungand with his hammer, Mjollnir, but then will take nine steps backwards and fall down, poisoned by the serpent's venom. Tyr will kill the wolf dog Garm. Vidar will take revenge for Odin. The enemies Loki and Heimdall will their spears at each other at the same time and both will die. Modi will be surrounded by Giants, but Magni and Vidar will rescue him.

The winds will increase and blow Yggdrasil from every direction until the great World-Tree falls. The Dark Elves forge will tip and the World-Tree will burn. The Bifrost Rainbow Bridge will collapse and one by one each of the Worlds will fall. The remaining Aesir will escape in Freyr's ship, Skidbladnir. It will be almost taken by the Hel-ship Naglfar. Midgard will then be destroyed by fire, and will sink back into the sea.

This final destruction will be followed by a rebirth, the Earth reemerging from the sea. Seven sons of the dead Aesir will return to Asgard and rule the universe."



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Parmenion
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Posted - 24 August 2009 :  2:34:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
or even more simply:

Darkness.

Darkness is the absence of light, the last book was Last Light, so now there is no more light. Also things are always Darkest before the light.

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Ankhsy
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Posted - 25 August 2009 :  3:45:36 PM  Show Profile Send Ankhsy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dark Light?



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Ankhsy
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Posted - 25 August 2009 :  3:59:18 PM  Show Profile Send Ankhsy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not a title suggesting, but a very interesting article from New Scientist on "Survival in a post-apocalypse blackout". Info for your book, Al?
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20327222.800-survival-in-a-postapocalypse-blackout.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news



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AndyCanty
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Posted - 25 August 2009 :  5:11:02 PM  Show Profile  Click to see AndyCanty's MSN Messenger address Send AndyCanty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Parmenion

Professor Snuggles saves the world?
Ming and the new dawn
The Legion of Light
Legions Light
Beacon of Hope
Embers
Ashes


How about "FLASH" light....with queen playing in the background... LOL

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Parmenion
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Posted - 25 August 2009 :  5:27:02 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Flash....{Snigger}

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Deva
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Posted - 27 August 2009 :  9:44:00 PM  Show Profile Send Deva a Private Message  Reply with Quote

LOST LIGHT
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Bat King
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Posted - 30 August 2009 :  8:22:54 PM  Show Profile Send Bat King a Private Message  Reply with Quote
New Light

Phoenix Dawning
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Fast Paul
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Posted - 31 August 2009 :  1:55:00 PM  Show Profile Send Fast Paul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Solar Dawn.

Green Dawn.

Eco Dawn.

New...(since that cock-up we`re all on rabbit food)....Dawn

my last offerings on this one, Al...I`m out!....(Mr Scarrow breathes a huge sigh of relief!)




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Ankhsy
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Posted - 01 September 2009 :  6:24:34 PM  Show Profile Send Ankhsy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
thermoluminescence?



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scarrow
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Posted - 02 September 2009 :  2:45:57 PM  Show Profile Send scarrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
a suggestion is being put before the Orion marketing bods...and I'll know in the next day or so if they give it the thumbs up.
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Simon Scarrow
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Posted - 02 September 2009 :  2:47:51 PM  Show Profile Send Simon Scarrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Are you also asking them to change that cover?
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Simon Scarrow
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Uruguay
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Posted - 02 September 2009 :  2:48:11 PM  Show Profile Send Simon Scarrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry, wrong book. Doh...
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scarrow
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Posted - 02 September 2009 :  8:55:39 PM  Show Profile Send scarrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
TimeRiders cover? Yuh....done deal there I'm afraid. It's designed for the core market (lads 11+). Maybe it'll get a rebrand with a more mature cover later on, once it's caught on. I'm hoping.
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scarrow
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Posted - 03 September 2009 :  5:58:18 PM  Show Profile Send scarrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
On the subject of titles, the title AFTERLIGHT has been chosen to replace TWILIGHT.

What do you think? Do you like?
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Parmenion
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Posted - 03 September 2009 :  6:11:14 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
errr....um.....errr....

1. the light visible in the sky after sunset; afterglow.
2. a view of past events; retrospect.

I dont know to be honest, i have to say it does not grab me by the balls and go WHAM!!

Last Light had BAHM!! it made you think, it resonated with the book....

have to say...i really dont know...you know me i like to be positive, but you also asked me to be brutal ...i will see if it grows on me...like moss...LOL.

were there any alternatives? runner ups?

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John Prigent
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Posted - 03 September 2009 :  7:29:22 PM  Show Profile Send John Prigent a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I can't say that I care for it Alex. It doesn't convey anything about the book, or about its subject, or that it follows Last Light. Those who recognise your name on the cover will look inside the book anyway (I assume that the cover blurb will say something useful, they don't always) and some others will look at it to see what it's about. I don't think the new title will prompt a lot of impulse sales to bring you new fans.
Cheers
John

Cheers

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Parmenion
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Posted - 03 September 2009 :  7:42:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
you know the more i think about it the more i think afterlife, and wonder if someone glancing will think the same thing??

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mike
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Posted - 05 September 2009 :  12:10:41 AM  Show Profile Send mike a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scarrow

On the subject of titles, the title AFTERLIGHT has been chosen to replace TWILIGHT.

What do you think? Do you like?



I don't like it. Is it even a word? If so, it's not one I've ever heard anyone use before. It makes me think of 'afterglow', the kind you get after reading a saucy novel.

I've waited over a day to post this - I was hoping it would grow on me. But it hasn't.




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scarrow
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Posted - 05 September 2009 :  4:20:53 PM  Show Profile Send scarrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Would it be better as After Light?
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Simon Scarrow
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Posted - 05 September 2009 :  4:32:28 PM  Show Profile Send Simon Scarrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't think either version works. Twilight was a good title and maybe Orion should be working around that as in 'Twilight World', or something, or go a bit literary as in 'Into That Dark Night'.
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Parmenion
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Posted - 05 September 2009 :  5:53:30 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I Still dont think it works Split Al, it just does not grab as a title, and what does it mean for the story?

Last Light, for mean meant after the the oil runs out the last light will go out...thats sort of thing...what does After Light mean?...Nothing except an attempt to have light in the title and TBH not a very god one IMHO.
Id rather you skipped it and went for something fresh, you can always have something saying its a sequel to Last Light somewhere smaller on the cover.

I think you want something catchy...and its not After light or Afterlight.

(sorry)

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Ankhsy
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Posted - 05 September 2009 :  8:57:59 PM  Show Profile Send Ankhsy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Afterlight?

Nah. Visions of a man lighting his Hamlet cigar spring to mind.



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Parmenion
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Posted - 08 September 2009 :  8:52:56 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So Al...has our bullying...sorry feedback had any impact with you and the publishers?

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