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Mace
Small mammal
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 14 October 2009 : 9:19:59 PM
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I'd set the series to record, and got started watching it tonight. Half way through the 3rd episode, and thought it was pretty good so far. There is seemingly a set date when this would have to come to some kind of conclusion, so it should avoid the endless loose threads and rambling storylines that have bogged down Lost, etc.
Anyone else been watching this series?
"My Mom says I'm cool"
Millhouse.
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CTL666
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 October 2009 : 2:10:40 PM
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Yes, I am. I thought the first episode had a good opener with all the crashes, fires etc. but to me it's already starting to feel a little stretched out. They're carefully doling out just one or two good bits of information per episode. I'm glad they showed what they did at the end of S1E3, just to get away from the nagging doubt that it would all be because of aliens or something stupid like that.
I agree with the comment about Lost. I've got so bored with that I don't watch any more. I think they Lost me (pun intended) around series 4. It's almost like the TV execs realise they've got something popular so they decide to drag it out for as long as they can - then they find that people switch off and usually cancel the series. I would dearly like them just to get a nice tight schedual with a fixed number of episodes right from the start. Right then and there they should mark each one as, for example, 1 of 48, 2 of 48 or whatever, so at least we know how much time we'll need to invest to see it through to the end.
Anyone late to the FF party can join in on Mondays at 9pm on channel 5. (UK)
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scarrow
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Posted - 15 October 2009 : 3:21:21 PM
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i caught the pilot. Quite good I thought. But, you've hit the nail on the head, this is the kind of high concept they'll try and spin out several seasons past its shelf life.
I read the book that this is based on, a few months ago, by a guy called Richard Sawyer, I think. The concept in the novel is much cooler - they see the future not of six months ahead, but 20 years ahead!
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Mace
Small mammal
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 October 2009 : 5:09:30 PM
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Still some good points to it though. 1 point that's nagging at me though is that many of them see themselves doing pretty ordinary things in 6 months. Yet they all know that data will now have some significance. Knowing that, would you really be sitting around a table on the day everyone saw? Wouldn't you be doing things differently just knowing that that day's coming? Surely just seeing the future must mean you'd do things differently.
"My Mom says I'm cool"
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CTL666
Invertebrate
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 October 2009 : 8:13:59 PM
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You mean like the guy who thinks he's going to get shot wouldn't have gone out and bought a kevlar vest or just booked a holiday and left?
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Mace
Small mammal
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 October 2009 : 10:24:52 PM
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Exactly. Or in the case of the main FBI agent, if you know you're still looking for the answer after 6 months, then the clues you saw on your board might mean that they've lead you nowhere for 6 months.
"My Mom says I'm cool"
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CTL666
Invertebrate
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 October 2009 : 11:27:11 PM
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The problem with that is nobody can tell the value of those clues, yet. It is possible that in six months and one day, those clues would lead him to the answer he is looking for.
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Coritanian
Homosapien
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 October 2009 : 5:39:41 PM
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The futures everyone saw feel like self-fulfilling prophecies to me. For example, the man working at the airport saw himself talking with the old Nazi (who, BTW, had better not be free to live his life now). After seeing this, he applied to work at the airport soon afterwards. Therefore, the only reason he applied to work at the airport, is because he saw himself working at the airport in his flash forward. And the only reason he was working at the airport in his flash forward, is because he applied for the job after seeing himself in his flash forward. He wouldn't be working at the airport if it wasn't for the fact that he saw himself in his flash forward, so the flash forward only makes sense if he sees himself in a flash forward, so therefore, it is a self-fulfilling prophecy.... I hope you understand what I'm trying to say !
So when the centurion and those with him, who were guarding Jesus, saw the earthquake and the things that had happened, they feared greatly, saying, “Truly this was the Son of God!”
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 October 2009 : 6:25:05 PM
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i think it may get canned after one series, if not it will run for 6 or 7 you cant tell these days, im still not sold on it yet
Centurion Parmenion
LASCIATE OGNE SPERANZA, VOI CH'INTRATE
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Coritanian
Homosapien
United Kingdom
2031 Posts |
Posted - 19 October 2009 : 11:00:40 PM
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Oh, and for those of you who may be interested, don't give up on Lost. There's one series to go. The answers are DEFINITELY coming. I think!
So when the centurion and those with him, who were guarding Jesus, saw the earthquake and the things that had happened, they feared greatly, saying, “Truly this was the Son of God!”
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CTL666
Invertebrate
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 October 2009 : 10:56:42 PM
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Anyone spot Charlie from Lost in the last episode of FF?
"You All Everybody!"
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Mace
Small mammal
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 October 2009 : 2:59:47 PM
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Parm, answers like got for the end of X-files or the Matrix? I.E: something cobbled together to try and make sense of the interseting threads that the different writers came up with but which never satisfy?
"My Mom says I'm cool"
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 October 2009 : 4:52:51 PM
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I can live with strange stuff going on, what i hate is things just stopping after 1 or 2 series especially when they are starting to get good.
Centurion Parmenion
LASCIATE OGNE SPERANZA, VOI CH'INTRATE
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Graeme Canty
Homosapien
United Kingdom
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Posted - 25 October 2009 : 8:52:43 PM
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Originally posted by Mace
Still some good points to it though. 1 point that's nagging at me though is that many of them see themselves doing pretty ordinary things in 6 months. Yet they all know that data will now have some significance. Knowing that, would you really be sitting around a table on the day everyone saw? Wouldn't you be doing things differently just knowing that that day's coming? Surely just seeing the future must mean you'd do things differently.
"My Mom says I'm cool"
Millhouse.
All the actions they do now, will lead up to there flashforward vision, they are reacting to what they know, and every action will lead to what they saw. Hence unavoidable.........:)
“I believe in a long, prolonged, derangement of the senses in order to obtain the unknown.”
Jim Morrison
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 October 2009 : 09:55:46 AM
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ah but arresting the customs officer means he cannot be a customs officer, so his future has been avoided thus the future isnt set in stone!
Centurion Parmenion
LASCIATE OGNE SPERANZA, VOI CH'INTRATE
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CTL666
Invertebrate
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 October 2009 : 5:41:15 PM
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Originally posted by Parmenion
ah but arresting the customs officer means he cannot be a customs officer, so his future has been avoided thus the future isnt set in stone!
But he didn't get arrested, did he? And the sole reason for him not getting arrested was because then he couldn't have been where he was in the future. But as he was there, it meant he couldn't have been arrested (in his future past), so therefore (in the present) he knew that he wouldn't be arrested. Try following that after a few beers. 
We still have the paradox, though. Many of the future events are only going to happen because someone in the present saw them. If they hadn't already occurred in the future, the person in the present would not make them happen. So this begs the question of what made them happen the very first time to begin the loop where the person sees it and makes it happen (again)?
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 October 2009 : 7:10:20 PM
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well i dont know im up the episode with the Crows, just watched that one.
he gave the impression that he was going to arrest him to change the future or try to.
In the future the main guy was wearing the string bracelet, he burned it, so thats one change already. I think they might show that the customs officer was arrested. there might be more, the korean guy i think will be going all out tio change as much as possible i think, screw paradox.
Centurion Parmenion
LASCIATE OGNE SPERANZA, VOI CH'INTRATE
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Graeme Canty
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United Kingdom
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 October 2009 : 8:51:33 PM
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another one identical? unlikely.
Centurion Parmenion
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CTL666
Invertebrate
United Kingdom
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Posted - 26 October 2009 : 10:26:40 PM
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But was it identical? Looked to me like it was slightly different from the one in the FF.
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Graeme Canty
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