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Acamas
Single Cell Organism
USA
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 Posted - 11 August 2006 : 5:08:52 PM
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If I buy Eagle in the Sand on Amazon UK, it will cost me $34 including shipping. That's my 5 hours pay equivalent. Could anyone sell me the book for $20 including shipping to the Pacific? Personally, $34 is way too much for one book.
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AndyCanty
Homosapien
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 August 2006 : 5:27:20 PM
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hi Acamas,
At the dollar exchange rate $20 for the book, converted to GBP is actaully let than I can buy the book for. so i cannot help you.
Not sure if parm can or not, asi know he can only get them a fraction cheaper than i can (sometimes), amazon get them cheaper than us anyways.
£34 isnt a bad price inc shipping. Even from the UK, shipping will be $15 minimum.
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If all the worlds a stage?
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drosdelnoch
Small mammal
United Kingdom
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Posted - 11 August 2006 : 7:01:01 PM
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You could technically do it for £5 although that would mean a 6-8 week delivery time with no insurance on the book so if it did go MIA your on your own.
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Acamas
Single Cell Organism
USA
49 Posts |
Posted - 12 August 2006 : 06:49:10 AM
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
13892 Posts |
Posted - 12 August 2006 : 11:08:40 AM
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he means th hipping.
Acamas you are allways such a cheap skate, $20 is about £11 sterling, shipping to the USA is about $15 so you expect the book to cost you $5 about 2.90 thats an insult to the author !you would not get a book that cheap in a charity shop let alone a new book.
While im more than happy to sell / provide books to international readers you need to be prepared to pay for them. i would say you would be looking at approx same as amazon, and they are as cheap as they can be with shipping.
so your choices apear to be pay up or wait for the US release.
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AndyCanty
Homosapien
United Kingdom
6629 Posts |
Posted - 12 August 2006 : 9:30:03 PM
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one small problem with a possible US release, didnt Simon say that the US publisher had pulled out (of all eagle books) and also had misgivings about the content, i seem to remember from the launch. I might be wrong, simon could confirm for us!
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If all the worlds a stage?
Where's my script???
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
13892 Posts |
Posted - 13 August 2006 : 6:17:37 PM
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im not usre when st martins are stopping but i do remeber something about the yanks and religeous sensitvity over the content, persoanlly thats publisher censoring
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Acamas
Single Cell Organism
USA
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Posted - 16 August 2006 : 8:25:29 PM
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| I simply want the book for nothing more than $23 US dollars including shipping. $34 US dollars is rediculas. Thats my 4 hours pay!!! |
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
13892 Posts |
Posted - 17 August 2006 : 09:45:46 AM
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4 hours pay for a book that can give you years of enjoyment...hows that a bad deal! and your job pays poorly! {grin}
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AndyCanty
Homosapien
United Kingdom
6629 Posts |
Posted - 17 August 2006 : 10:34:57 AM
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Hey Acamas,
If you feel the exchange rate is so poor towards the US buying public, i suggest you talk to your President, it's his fun and games in the world that have made the dollar so weak, against the GBP and other currencies.
Basically what you want is just on trade price, excluding delivery charges, I wouldnt so bad ifthe exchange rate was closer for you guys.
If Bush was to get his own house in order before trying to sort everyone elses then maybe you would be able to import with out so much cost. and dont even mention fair trade, unfortuantly the US companies want to trade with everyone else, but will not allow those contries to trade with them, open up fair trade and dollar wil strengthen and you'll be able to get Sands for 3hrs pay rather than 4.
What do you do to be so lowly paid? it equates to less that miniumum wage here, and I thougt America was a wealthy country!!!
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If all the worlds a stage?
Where's my script???
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Ankhsy
Homosapien
United Kingdom
7087 Posts |
Posted - 17 August 2006 : 12:28:26 PM
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Thats $8.50/hour = £4.49 on current exchange rates! My OH's 15 yr old son gets paid half as much again per hour labouring on a building site (part time during summer holidays).
"It's hard to work in a group when you're omniscient."
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
13892 Posts |
Posted - 17 August 2006 : 12:39:53 PM
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my son gets more delivering papers
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Acamas
Single Cell Organism
USA
49 Posts |
Posted - 17 August 2006 : 6:19:21 PM
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| Well sorry for not being college educated like all of you! I get $12 an hour for working at Pizza Hut, minus taxes which makes it $9 an hour. And this book hasn't brought me years of enjoyment. It's more of an addiction but a good read! I started the series around March. |
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AndyCanty
Homosapien
United Kingdom
6629 Posts |
Posted - 17 August 2006 : 10:01:10 PM
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Hey, i'm not college educated, just worked very hard to get where i am today.
If you want to get it in the states give St Martins Press hassle to resign simons books in the US, maybe that might be cheaper in the long run, or find a us importer of them
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If all the worlds a stage?
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Bat King
Invertebrate
United Kingdom
148 Posts |
Posted - 17 August 2006 : 11:52:02 PM
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
13892 Posts |
Posted - 18 August 2006 : 09:00:39 AM
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Hey im not college educated...well i was not until i went back to adult education at the age of 27. and the books will give you a lifetime of enjoyment if you look after them.
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Simon Scarrow
Small mammal
Uruguay
777 Posts |
Posted - 18 August 2006 : 10:08:49 AM
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It's an interesting issue, Acamas. It's true that $34 is a lot to pay for a book. Unless it was a book I really wanted or needed then I would baulk at the price. Then you have to factor in disposable income. Buying a $34 book if you work at Pizza Hut is far more of financial sacrifice than if you own Microsoft. Then you also have to weigh it against other interests. That same sum could buy a computer game that might offer as much pleasure or five or so trips to the cinema, or three DVD purchases, and so on. What a product is worth depends upon the consumer to a great degree. Just a thought, do you have a public library near you that might be able to stock my books? That might be a solution.
The other side of the coin on this is that it takes a long time to research, plan and write a book, and the rewards are not as great as you might think (Dan Brown aside), given the way that retailers are forcing ever greater discounts onto publishers, who in turn force them onto authors. At present my cut of a 6.99 paperback works out at about 30p before tax, or 20c. You have to multiply that by a lot before you start making a decent income.
So we're flip sides of the same coin, you and me. We both have to make a living, and as a consumer you want the cheapest price you can get, as a producer I want the hightest price I can get. If it's too high then you won't make the purchase, and if it's too low it won't be worth my while to write books. Not an easy one to resolve I think. |
Edited by - Simon Scarrow on 18 August 2006 10:10:29 AM |
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Ankhsy
Homosapien
United Kingdom
7087 Posts |
Posted - 18 August 2006 : 10:31:48 AM
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At present my cut of a 6.99 paperback works out at about 30p before tax
 Alms for the love of Allah! 
Seriously, I expect to pay up to around £25 for a decent sized hardback book (around £17 with Amazon discounts). What is ridiculous is the price of postage these days, specially to Europe and the USA, which the UK is about to find out when the postal system pricing changes at the end of this month.
"It's hard to work in a group when you're omniscient."
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
13892 Posts |
Posted - 18 August 2006 : 10:48:24 AM
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i can honestly say i would be happy to pay £20 or even more for my annual dose of Eagle!! and given the size of Young bloods i would have gone much higher
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Simon Scarrow
Small mammal
Uruguay
777 Posts |
Posted - 18 August 2006 : 10:54:38 AM
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Parm, to you I'll sell all my books for £30 from now on!
Ankhsy, it'll be interesting to see how Play.com and Amazon and the rest react to increased postage charges. Bet those discounts start to shrink. In any case, no-one buys books at cover prices these days. The real price is always the discount one. So on a real price of $34 I think that Acamas has something of a point, as far as reader in the US is concerned. |
Edited by - Simon Scarrow on 18 August 2006 10:55:23 AM |
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
13892 Posts |
Posted - 18 August 2006 : 11:24:28 AM
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for my own personal copy i would be happy to {grin}.
as long as the ones for the book shop remain the same..(think of the kiddies)
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Ankhsy
Homosapien
United Kingdom
7087 Posts |
Posted - 18 August 2006 : 11:48:07 AM
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Originally posted by Simon Scarrow
Parm, to you I'll sell all my books for £30 from now on!
Hang on! That's what Parm sells them on to us! Cut out the middleman - I say.
"It's hard to work in a group when you're omniscient."
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
13892 Posts |
Posted - 18 August 2006 : 12:07:31 PM
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hey over heads!! stamps petrol, time effort...oh and dont forget , up to this book Parmenion books gave 25% of profits to charity, for all future scarrow books thats going up to 50%.
So your not just buying top quality limited editions books your also giving to the needy children.
...all together now...aaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!
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John Prigent
Homosapien
United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 August 2006 : 1:27:41 PM
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I did a Bookfinder search and found that Amazon US quotes $23.63 for delivery in CONUS.
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
13892 Posts |
Posted - 18 August 2006 : 1:29:28 PM
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Conferderacy
or
Noth
United
States
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John Prigent
Homosapien
United Kingdom
8413 Posts |
Posted - 18 August 2006 : 2:07:28 PM
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CONtiguous United States. In other words, the USA without Alaska or the offshore state of Hawaii.
Cheers
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
13892 Posts |
Posted - 18 August 2006 : 2:26:28 PM
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John you are forever eduacting me!! Ta!! I liked my made up one though
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Ankhsy
Homosapien
United Kingdom
7087 Posts |
Posted - 18 August 2006 : 2:49:12 PM
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Originally posted by Parmenion
So your not just buying top quality limited editions books your also giving to the needy children.
Ahhhhhh, so I no longer need to have a guilt trip when I bin UNICEF's begging letters. In any case, I always buy their cards.
"It's hard to work in a group when you're omniscient."
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
13892 Posts |
Posted - 18 August 2006 : 2:50:49 PM
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no feel free to sit back and bask in your giving nature {grin}
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Ankhsy
Homosapien
United Kingdom
7087 Posts |
Posted - 18 August 2006 : 3:10:03 PM
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Bask? You mean like the sharK?
"It's hard to work in a group when you're omniscient."
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Parmenion
Homosapien
United Kingdom
13892 Posts |
Posted - 18 August 2006 : 3:11:16 PM
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hey i hope thats not a dig!! have you never basked before??
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