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John Prigent
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 August 2006 :  4:46:29 PM  Show Profile Send John Prigent a Private Message
Well, if you really _want_ to swim around in the sea with your mouth wide open gulping plankton......

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Parmenion
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 August 2006 :  4:48:13 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
youve seen me swimming then?? my brick impression is legendary!



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AndyCanty
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 18 August 2006 :  8:03:17 PM  Show Profile  Click to see AndyCanty's MSN Messenger address Send AndyCanty a Private Message
is that called sinking with style???

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Parmenion
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Posted - 19 August 2006 :  12:13:16 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
i try to do everything with style mate



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AndyCanty
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 August 2006 :  12:20:29 PM  Show Profile  Click to see AndyCanty's MSN Messenger address Send AndyCanty a Private Message
yeah we've notieced....hehe

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Acamas
Single Cell Organism



USA
49 Posts

Posted - 19 August 2006 :  7:25:39 PM  Show Profile  Send Acamas an AOL message Send Acamas a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Simon Scarrow

It's an interesting issue, Acamas. It's true that $34 is a lot to pay for a book. Unless it was a book I really wanted or needed then I would baulk at the price. Then you have to factor in disposable income. Buying a $34 book if you work at Pizza Hut is far more of financial sacrifice than if you own Microsoft. Then you also have to weigh it against other interests. That same sum could buy a computer game that might offer as much pleasure or five or so trips to the cinema, or three DVD purchases, and so on. What a product is worth depends upon the consumer to a great degree. Just a thought, do you have a public library near you that might be able to stock my books? That might be a solution.

The other side of the coin on this is that it takes a long time to research, plan and write a book, and the rewards are not as great as you might think (Dan Brown aside), given the way that retailers are forcing ever greater discounts onto publishers, who in turn force them onto authors. At present my cut of a 6.99 paperback works out at about 30p before tax, or 20c. You have to multiply that by a lot before you start making a decent income.

So we're flip sides of the same coin, you and me. We both have to make a living, and as a consumer you want the cheapest price you can get, as a producer I want the hightest price I can get. If it's too high then you won't make the purchase, and if it's too low it won't be worth my while to write books. Not an easy one to resolve I think.



The library!!?? Haha! That must be a joke. Around here the only books they had written by you were the first two books and that was it. I remember finding Conn Igguldens first book at the library 2 years ago in the "free books" section. Our libraries here are so messed up.

And since your post was so convincing, I might actually buy it. However, I am sure your next book will be another $34 and then another $34! One way or another I am going to be forced to figure out a way to find a cheaper way to purchase books once I am on my own and out of the house.
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Simon Scarrow
Small mammal



Uruguay
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Posted - 19 August 2006 :  8:16:57 PM  Show Profile Send Simon Scarrow a Private Message
I'm curious, Acamas, what is the attitude to libraries in the US? Are they neglected? Inefficient? Do people use them as much as I assume they used to? Please let us know.
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Acamas
Single Cell Organism



USA
49 Posts

Posted - 19 August 2006 :  8:37:43 PM  Show Profile  Send Acamas an AOL message Send Acamas a Private Message
I can't exactly tell you attitudes of the nations libraries since there are so many. There is only one librarian in my local branch. It's a small library but modern because it was built 10 years ago. The rest of the workers here are volunteers, or minimum wage workers. This library does not hold any of your books. There is another branch about 5 miles away that is much larger and much older that includes two of your books. They don't sell or throw out nearly as many books as the local branch nearby my place, instead they keep them. The city library is a total mess. By next year they plan on building a 4 story library to house more books. Here is some more info:

http://www.sandiego.gov/public-library/about-the-library/

My school was built about 4 years ago. The library is completely different than any other research library in any school. Rather than stuff it with expensive books, they only have a small section for books that's even smaller than my elementary school's library. Most of it has computers instead, wired to the internet for research.
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Parmenion
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 August 2006 :  09:22:18 AM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
acamas can you not request books in the library, over here if you ask they will ship it in from another library or they will buy the book!



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Ankhsy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 20 August 2006 :  10:12:18 AM  Show Profile Send Ankhsy a Private Message
Parm is right, Acamas, you should be able to get an inter-library loan, where your library will ask for the loan of a book from another library.

"It's hard to work in a group when you're omniscient."
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Nísia
Small mammal



Portugal
661 Posts

Posted - 22 August 2006 :  7:18:34 PM  Show Profile Send Nísia a Private Message
PARMENION! It's not fair! I had ordered in my mane, but you have sent in my husband's name, so it must to be him to pick up from the mail and now he don't want to give me! Only when he finish to read it! It´s not fair!
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John Prigent
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 August 2006 :  7:21:28 PM  Show Profile Send John Prigent a Private Message
Oh Nisia! That's bad of him! Tell him to hand it over to you now if he wants any cooking, clothes washing, ironing, house cleaning or to not have to sleep on the sofa.

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John
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Parmenion
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 August 2006 :  08:51:50 AM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
Hey Nisa
on the order form, you put those details in the delivery address section? i presumed thats where you wanted it sent.
Im afraid you will have to withold certain benefits from him until he returns the book {grin}
Sorry for the confusion

R.



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ingocaius
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 August 2006 :  09:30:44 AM  Show Profile Send ingocaius a Private Message
i purchased eagle in the sand last saturday (20th aug) for £11.99 having two kids and a hetic job i expect to finish reading it in a week. on the same saturday i paid sky tv £14 to watch my beloved spurs get humiliated 2-0 by bolton,
there is a point there i think ha oh yes as has been mentioned a book can give a lifetimes enjoyment (following spurs gives a lifetime of pain) , i will probably read the whole eagle series from start again once i finish the latest book. 90 mins of pain for £14 verses £11.99 for a cracking yarn as they say nuff said

Edited by - ingocaius on 23 August 2006 09:35:35 AM
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AndyCanty
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 August 2006 :  09:32:44 AM  Show Profile  Click to see AndyCanty's MSN Messenger address Send AndyCanty a Private Message
Once you get going Ingociaus, I reckon you'll finish it sooner than a week, hehe we certainly did.

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ingocaius
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United Kingdom
67 Posts

Posted - 23 August 2006 :  09:39:43 AM  Show Profile Send ingocaius a Private Message
believe me i would finish it in hours given the time but normally i have to read at work in my breaktimes and in between machine cycles (DONT TELL THE BOSS HA)as i write now im being battered by my two year old with a scooby doo teddy
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Ankhsy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 August 2006 :  09:41:12 AM  Show Profile Send Ankhsy a Private Message
I read it in four readings; I just couldn't put it down, the last third of the book is gripping!

"It's hard to work in a group when you're omniscient."
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AndyCanty
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United Kingdom
6629 Posts

Posted - 23 August 2006 :  09:42:37 AM  Show Profile  Click to see AndyCanty's MSN Messenger address Send AndyCanty a Private Message
lol, i know what you mean, I have a 5 and 7yr old at home. I never get a look in for reading till about 9at night if i'm lucky. never get time at work. usually working lunches

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ingocaius
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Posted - 23 August 2006 :  09:44:57 AM  Show Profile Send ingocaius a Private Message
i am a very fast reader unfortunatly my wife now realises when i say im popping to the loo and gone for an hour its not down to her cooking and im burried in a book so i get wrong BUSTED
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ingocaius
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 August 2006 :  09:47:01 AM  Show Profile Send ingocaius a Private Message
IM LUCKY I WORK SHIFTS, ON A LATE SHIFT IM ON MY OWN AND THE MACHINE BASICALLY RUNS ITSELF RESULT
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Ankhsy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 August 2006 :  10:11:05 AM  Show Profile Send Ankhsy a Private Message
Have you seen Amazon is offering Iggulden's new book on Genghis (Wolf on the Plain) together with Simon's Eagle in the Sand!

"It's hard to work in a group when you're omniscient."
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ingocaius
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 August 2006 :  10:25:03 AM  Show Profile Send ingocaius a Private Message
is that out now totally forgot about that
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Parmenion
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United Kingdom
13892 Posts

Posted - 23 August 2006 :  10:45:32 AM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
But wolf is not due for relase until January

are you lot aware that Cornwells new sharpe book is out today? Im trying to get some signed copies fromt he publisher , so if anyone wants one let em know and if i can get them i will let you know.



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ingocaius
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 23 August 2006 :  10:45:55 PM  Show Profile Send ingocaius a Private Message
salve centurion parmenion heh any chance of a optio bryan in the next book chortle actually i need the first three in the eagle series signed and in hardback to add to my collection
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AndyCanty
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United Kingdom
6629 Posts

Posted - 24 August 2006 :  09:13:16 AM  Show Profile  Click to see AndyCanty's MSN Messenger address Send AndyCanty a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ingocaius

salve centurion parmenion heh any chance of a optio bryan in the next book chortle actually i need the first three in the eagle series signed and in hardback to add to my collection



hi, you'll possibly struggle getting the first 3 books unless your prepared to pay good many, Under the Eagle goes for anything between £300-£500 mine cost me £275. the others around £100 each I reckon.
good luck took me long enough to complete the collection.





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Parmenion
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Posted - 24 August 2006 :  09:31:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
I may have a lead on some more early Scarrow books in 1st hardback so will keep you posted.



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Ankhsy
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 August 2006 :  10:30:44 AM  Show Profile Send Ankhsy a Private Message
moi, por favor, Parm.

Iggulden's Khan book isn't out until January, so I was suprised to see it being offered together with EinS. I suppose Amazon send you EinS first.

"It's hard to work in a group when you're omniscient."

Edited by - Ankhsy on 24 August 2006 10:32:36 AM
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AndyCanty
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 August 2006 :  10:45:04 AM  Show Profile  Click to see AndyCanty's MSN Messenger address Send AndyCanty a Private Message
yes indeed keep up posted Parm...

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Manu21
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 August 2006 :  3:49:58 PM  Show Profile  Click to see Manu21's MSN Messenger address Send Manu21 a Private Message
i found it in a shop for £10




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Parmenion
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 August 2006 :  3:54:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit Parmenion's Homepage Send Parmenion a Private Message
what a first edition hardback? Lucky!!



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